Dear United World Citizens of Homophobia,
I’ve addressed you before in the past but it seems the need has risen again. For the last year or so, I’ve listened closely to your banter, be it from American GOP presidential hopefuls(emphasis on the hopeful) or from a number of other politicians in various parts of Africa. Not only did I hear and read some of the most heinous things about LGBT(Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender) people, but you even go as far as to continue to push for legislation to take rights away from us(I say “us” in case you missed it). In some cases they are even attempting to have gay people put to death.
To my own surprise, things like this still have to be written in 2011. Because it is evident that homophobia is still one of the last known widely accepted and open prejudices still standing in the world today. From Rick Perry’s promise to force gay and lesbian service members back into the closet from which they proud broke free from, to the people of Uganda proposing a “Kill The Gays” bill and posting names, photos, and addresses of suspected LGBT people in their local papers to ensure that they be terrorized. And most recently, Newt Gingrich(friend of the blog) expressed his disdain for gays so much that he’d rather gay people(including gay Republicans) just vote for Obama.
You see, the problem in society is not LGBT people, the problem is you. The small minded, often religious, ignorant people who know little to nothing about what it means to be gay on any level, be it scientifically or socially, and have no interest in taking the time to understand. The problem is that you are able to direct hate at a group of people and then hide behind your Bible, which carries many flaws itself when it comes to moral leadership. You attempt to hide your homophobic hatred behind the idea that being gay is a choice when in actuality your religion, ignorance, and bigotry is what’s being chosen.
No one wakes up and decides to be viewed as a second class citizen because they want to. If this is the case, tell me, at what point in your life did you choose to be straight? Because if you chose to be straight that would mean the only reason you’re not gay is because you haven’t met the right guy or girl yet. In which case, I have some very persuasive single friends you should meet. You say things like “God gave us sexual organs to reproduce and well, gays can’t do that” but riddle me this. When was the last time you had sex for the sole purpose of creating a child? Thought so. Because the truth of the matter is most all sex that occurs is for the purpose of pleasure and nothing more.
I can’t recall the last time I heard a guy complain about no women wanting him to get them pregnant but I’ve heard quite few about not being able to get laid. Yet the common theme echoed throughout the our lives is to have more sex, have better sex, and “how you can have more better sex!!” right, Cosmo and Men’s Health? So now that were done with that flawed argument…
The idea that LGBT people can’t be good parents has been debunked many times (or just ask Zach Wahls) as well as the effect gay marriage has on society and the institution itself. The last time I checked, the few states that offer the hetero-luxury of being married if you’re gay were still in tact, not on fire, and haven’t fallen off into the ocean yet. None of your reasons for hating gay people hold up to any type of modern litmus test of being a societal nuisance, yet you continue to cling to your hatred and bigotry. Why? What are you afraid of? That gays might actually be nice people? That you might have to change your belief system? Face your own repressed homosexuality? That you might actually have to teach your children who Jesus “really” was?
Because he mentioned being gay zero times in the good book but he mentions love, acceptance, and peace numerous times. But we can’t go around having people thinking that Jesus loved EVERYBODY right? Give it some thought the next time you’re working on the Sabbath, touching a football, dining at Red Lobster, wearing clothing of mixed fabric, having sex on your period, trimming your side burns and beard, getting a tattoo, or not killing your children for being disobedient. You’re very familiar with Leviticus assume.
What I don’t understand is how “Christians” can be at the forefront of a movement against gay and lesbian hard working, TAX PAYING, American citizens who live in a country based on principles of both liberty and freedom and then attempt to obstruct those very liberties and freedoms. You claim that being gay is unnatural. Well so are glasses that correct your vision, wheel chairs for paraplegics, and brain surgery to remove a tumor. Your poor vision and brain tumor occurred naturally, yet you opt to go against your God and defy his perfect governing of your life and choose unnatural means to defy him. Clearly he didn’t want you seeing that far or living past a certain age right?
Your car got T-boned by a semi and now you need a wheel chair to get around? Obviously, the natural thing to do is to crawl. Crawl everywhere you need to go because God didn’t birth you into the world with a wheel chair. But he did give you arms and a torso so the natural thing to do would be to just crawl.
Because you see, being gay is natural. Being a hateful, homophobic bigot is a lifestyle choice. You can continue to go on hating people for being different, but that will never make you right. It is true that the arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice, and everyday we get closer to that justice for LGBT people. And many years from now you will be the shining example of what we reflect upon in classrooms and history books, the way we look back on our soiled history as human beings for unflattering events that occurred in the world like slavery, the Holocaust, and the Civil Rights Movement. You will be an embarrassment to yourself and the family that proceeds you. Because homosexuality occurs in over a thousand different species. But homophobia only occurs in one.
Follow @Travon“Are you too so uncomprehending? Don’t you see that whatever goes into your mouth from the outside cannot defile you; because it does not go into your heart, but into your stomach, and is eliminated?(in saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.) That which proceeds from within you, out of your heart, defiles you. Evil thoughts, abusive sex acts, thefts, murders, adulteries, deeds of coveting, wickedness, deceit, not caring, envy, slander, arrogance and foolishness: all of these evil things proceed from within and defile you.” – Jesus (Mark 7:18-23)
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I am NOT a Christian..I am a true follower of Yeshua (Jesus)..most so called Christians are just Fans…Since none of the homosexuals, want to believe that G_d did NOT create them this way..then let’s look at the medical reports huh. If G_d did create you this way then G_d doesn’t love you…..for why would He create you to do and engage in acts that will not only shorten you life, but KILL you..The acts performed by all homosexuals are destructive to the body itself..a place he calls His temple…. If you don’t believe me..let look at this whole issue from a medical perspective…
ORAL SEX Homosexuals fellate almost all of their sexual contacts (and ingest semen from about half of these). Semen contains many of the germs carried in the blood. Because of this, gays who practice oral sex verge on consuming raw human blood, with all its medical risks. Since the penis often has tiny lesions (and often will have been in unsanitary places such as a rectum), individuals so involved may become infected with hepatitis A or gonorrhea (and even HIV and hepatitis B). Since many contacts occur between strangers (70% of gays estimated that they had had sex only once with over half of their partners17,27), and gays average somewhere between 106 and 1105 different partners/year, the potential for infection is considerable.
RECTAL SEX Surveys indicate that about 90% of gays have engaged in rectal intercourse, and about two-thirds do it regularly. In a 6-month long study of daily sexual diaries,3 gays averaged 110 sex partners and 68 rectal encounters a year. Rectal sex is dangerous. During rectal intercourse the rectum becomes a mixing bowl for 1) saliva and its germs and/or an artificial lubricant, 2) the recipient’s own feces, 3) whatever germs, infections or substances the penis has on it, and 4) the seminal fluid of the inserter. Since sperm readily penetrate the rectal wall (which is only one cell thick) causing immunologic damage, and tearing or bruising of the anal wall is very common during anal/penile sex, these substances gain almost direct access to the blood stream. Unlike heterosexual intercourse (in which sperm cannot penetrate the multilayered vagina and no feces are present),7 rectal intercourse is probably the most sexually efficient way to spread hepatitis B, HIV syphilis and a host of other blood-borne diseases. Tearing or ripping of the anal wall is especially likely with “fisting,” where the hand and arm is inserted into the rectum. It is also common when “toys” are employed (homosexual lingo for objects which are inserted into the rectum–bottles, carrots, even gerbils8). The risk of contamination and/or having to wear a colostomy bag from such “sport” is very real. Fisting was apparently so rare in Kinsey’s time that he didn’t think to talk about it. By 1977, well over a third of gays admitted to doing it. The rectum was not designed to accommodate the fist, and those who do so can find themselves consigned to diapers for life. should I go on….now answer this question..why would a loving G_d make you in such a way that you would do such damage to yourself and others if He is truly is a G_d of Love only? Why would G_d make you that way just so you can kill yourself and the out law it at the same time…The answer..He didn’t we are all given a choice..you mad yours..G_d doesn’t like it and I am following His lead..yet he still loves you and wants you stop..and that too I am following from G_d….Here is a test..why not ask g_d to take such a desire from you..I know a few x homosexuals that are free..so can you..Just ask the L_rd to help you do things His way..Not mine and definitely not yours….
G_d bless
I like many of your leading/” rhetorical” questions, but one of the downfall of using rhetorical questions in arguments (unless they’re really really really strong) is that they can be used against you. So to dismiss your answers/opinions to them, I can easily say : 1) No, God does not love certain people, he is not loving 2) What you call God is non-existent. This coming from an ally to LGBTQ people btw. PS: All these medical findings have all been contested, and you will find what you look for, so equally horrible results have been found in heterosexual relationships. If homosexuality leads to all these horrible things, then heterosexuality should be held accountable for sexing and producing/raising homosexual. If you weren’t a good parent enough to raise a heterosexual child, can we blame you please? Or should we blame God? I can foresee your retort, and you’ll say ” well, at the end of the day, it’s the child’s personal choice and my parenting had nothing to do, he has to be the one to say yes to Jesus Hallah Jacob blah blah blah”. Your God is very loving, indeed — that is, the one made in man’s image …the sexist, racist, homophobic one, if you catch my drift.
GAY AND PROUD! LETS STICK TOGETHER!!
Do you know where your “Holy” bible leads you? To both the acceptance and the rejection of slavery/Racism (ask the Mormons), sexism, and homophobia. Ultimately I believe that if you call yourself a devout Christian ( I am not), the single best lesson to follow is that of love, plain and simple. Love, love, love your neighbor. Mitchell, I understand that you are trying to distance yourself from the more hateful homophobes out there, but understand that your belief is a precursor to their hate…it is a from of subtle homophobia …still hurtful in my opinion because it inevitably affects how you treat people in the LGBT community and your take on what rights to which they’re entitled ( i.e. your opinion on gay marriage, thank you…point proven)….but, hm what makes you sooo special that you should have certain rights and not them, if as you said, we’re all sinners anyway? Why focus on them? I have a friend who does this all the time, he is supposedly a social justice advocate, yet his belief ( affected by his Christianity) that it’s a sin makes him a hypocrite…because he really doesn’t deal with homophobia in his social justice endeavors (rather racism, sexism, ageism … I know ageism! Is that even a real issue? Bigger than homophobia?). That’s hypocrisy. Ultimately, I will not go much further into details, I am not trying to change you or your beliefs (I am not the bible, or the church for crying out loud) but please do keep the following in mind : “A lot of intelligent people use their intelligence to create arguements to justify their emotional beliefs rather than use their intelligence to find the correct thing to believe.” Well, you can replace emotional with religious. Some of the smartest Christians in my life only use logic and reason when convenient…that’s a shame.
Yvon, who said I “focus” on gay people? I said that I don’t do that. Sin is sin. I dont think we should focus on ANY sin, homosexuality included.
As far as gay marriage is concerned. What would your legal argument be that homosexuals have a “right” to marry? If marriage is in fact, a right. Then it is a right for ALL people. Not just heterosexuals and gays but ALL. So that means brother can marry sister, father can marry daughter and so on and so forth? If you say they can’t, then YOU are being the bigot. How dare you say who can and cannot marry. This is a slippery slope and very dangerous if you ask me. This is not a religious argument but a secular one. The state does not benefit from same sex marriage. It does however, have a vested interest in a heterosexual one. There is a good chance the heterosexual one will produce offspring. That is in the interest of the state.
I do not hate. I just believe that homosexuality is sin. Because you don’t agree with me you try to paint me as someone who has a secret hate for gay people. im sorry, it just isnt there. To be perfectly honest, i really don’t care too much about what gays are doing. I judge people by the content of their character and not their sexual preference. But I believe homosexuality IS sin. Just like stealing and idolatry. Both I have been guilty of.
Happy New Year!
Your idea of rights is just ignorant. People have inalienable rights as long as it doesn’t harm anyone else. There are always restrictions on certain rights. We don’t have the right to shout “FIRE’ in a crowded theatre if it’s not true because it can cause harm to others. That’s not a restriction on freedom of speech. That’s why there are restrictions on marriages of people who are close in genetics, because the result could be a mongoloid or some other genetic mutation that occurs regularly in those kinds of couplings. There is no harm associated with marriage equality, it harms no one except maybe the homophobic religious fascists feelings and stupid belief system. We have a secular government, Sir, our laws are not based on sectarian belief systems. Whatever you were taught, we don’t live in a theocracy
One could argue that same sex marriage DOES harm others. Marriages come with certain benefits and those benefits cost money to someone (taxpayer). When a husband dies his wife is entitled to his social security. Marriages have other benefits as well, like insurance coverage. These benefits do cost money to society. What does the taxpayer get from his/her investment? Same sex couple cannot produce a child. They can only take one on (which I find admirable, as an adopted child.) Reproduction is futile to the state. Without people there are no taxes. This isn’t just a religious thing.
Plus, you know very little about my faith and nothing about my politics. I think Christians should stay out of governement. I don’t even vote. So I am not a threat.
Wow, I really like how, as a Christian, you are carefully putting a price on everything basically …weighing who you should get married or not by how much the state will gain from it. Here I am thinking marriage was the celebration of love and lifelong commitment to love…stupid, naive me. Gay people cannot have children, which does not benefit the state, therefore they shouldn’t get married? That’s your secular argument? By the same token, should we say that the marriage of straight people who are infertile should be outlawed? Yes, Oh OK then …
Your argument of ” siblings getting married”, which I hear all the time from religious fanatics/ homophobes, also in the form of “owner marrying his pet” ( an appeal to absurdity) does not quite sell….and I believe Mykelb does a good job at saying why. You’re also going to need more than just ” you can argue that gay marriage DOES harm
others” …because we’re rational beings, we can argue EVERYTHING haha like hm say — straight marriage DOES harm others …you see how your own arguments work against you? Ultimately, I respect you as a person, and I appreciate that you go by people’s character — not their sexual orientation. At least you’re a millions steps ahead of some people out there.
“Wow, I really like how, as a Christian, you are carefully putting a price on everything basically”
Everything? Because I said that there IS a secular argument against same-sex marriage, I am only concerned about money?
You seem to have a preceonceived idea of who I am because I am religious. So anything I say is gonna be used against me whether it is justified or not. Because someone is gay, I do not assume that they are good at decorating and fashion savvy. I do not think they are clean and talk like Richard Simmons. Honestly, I really don’t care. I judge by character. Perhaps you should extend Christians the same courtesy. After all, we don’t ALL go to Westboro Baptist Church.
So as far as marriage is concerned, it should be restricted by people who YOU think should not get married? I just want to be clear. Since about half the states currently allow first cousins to marry, i wonder what legal reason you might apply to say that a brother canNOT marry his sister? Say they are incapable of producing children. How would you argue AGAINST their “right” to marry? If two consenting adults want to get married isn’t it their right?
What about polygamists or bisexuals? If a bisexual has desires for a man and a women can he/she marry both? Who are you to discriminate against their sexual identity?
Once marriage is pulled from its historical roots there really isn’t much leg to stand on in denying anyone the right to marry. I think same-sex marriage is a bad idea. But that does not make me a homophobe or bigot.
I understand what you are saying. I am not calling you a homophobe actually. I like your attitude towards the whole situation. All I am doing is pointing some perceived flaws in your arguments….such as …”it has a history, therefore it shouldn’t be changed” …I just don’t see how something is so sacred simply because it is “historical” …slavery was historical, why didn’t we keep it up? I am just saying some traditions are self-defeating in the long run…human rights are above traditions. Something should not have to be more important than MY rights as an individual simply because it is a tradition. For example, most traditional things we do are now deemed to be harmful to the environment …well should we keep doing them just because they’re traditions (and destroy the Earth) or should we change things up a bit? Do you see what I am saying?
PS: I already told you, and you don’t seem to be getting it…your argument with brothers and sisters getting married is an appeal to absurdity, it’s a logical fallacy and quite frankly does not hold…OK really? Let’s be frank here, how many siblings are out here trying to get married? Seriously? lol
Yvon, my argument isn’t backed by history. I was merely saying that marriage had a “historical” definition and if it were to be redefined then it opens the door to many instances.
When you thought I though marriage was about money, you said “Here I am thinking marriage was the celebration of love and lifelong commitment to love…stupid, naive me.” So if it really is about love, then why do gays need the legal document? Is it only love if the government is involved? Gay people want to be recognized and enjoy the same rights and benefits as heterosexual couples. But where does it stop if, in fact, two siblings want to marry or a bisexual wants to marry 2 people? You laugh at my argument about simblings but there are cases of brother and sister being in sexual relationships. Humor me for a second and just imagine that 2 siblings wanted to marry, what would your legal argument be for preventing it?
I suggest you look into this a bit further. There are some weird people out there and if they want to get married then what right would the government have to stop them? It isn’t just gays and straights that want marrigae rights. Okay?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/6424337.stm
Sooo…marriage for everyone? Hahahaha That’s too much, I know. And yeah you’re right, if it’s all love. then marriage is a mere social construction that should not have to be sole “proof” of love…quite honestly, I don’t value it as much as others do. In any event, your argument why only heterosexuals should get married, it doesn’t exactly firmly answer why gays shouldn’t…It sounds like you’re merely using the siblings argument to justify why certain people in society shouldn’t enjoy certain rights that come with marriage…oh well, it’s your belief, and I respect it.
It has nothing to do with legality with me. I do not support SSM because I believe homosexuality is sin.
I was just pointing out than once the current marriage laws are undone it will open the door to….who knows what.
Thanks for the discussion.
Hello Travon – I am Muslim, so you may think it is strange that I believe that God created gays and that homosexuality is not a choice or lifestyle any more than being black or white is a choice or a lifestyle. When I speak to my brothers at the Mosque about this they say things like “God wouldn’t do that”, but God allows people to be born without arms and legs, or even without a brain sometimes. All the Abrahamic religions teach us to love our neighbor – not just straight or white or Jewish neighbors, but ALL of mankind. One thing God hates is hypocrites and I pray every day that I am not among the hypocrites. To my Christian brothers who have commented here, the Bible forbids us to eat pork in three different places, yet you knowingly disobey. Will you go to hell for this? Only God knows and for you to speak for God on these matters is the biggest sin a Muslim can be guilty of. We believe that God is on a level above all else and only He can say who is a sinner and who will be sent to hell or granted heaven. All we can do as humans is to try to live a good life, lead by example and butt out of other people’s lives, unless their actions directly affect us. Last time I checked, gays weren’t dragging off your husbands, wives and children to live like Peter Pan in some Neverland.
Let us spread the love, not hate. Check out this wonderful article as well:
http://www.danoah.com/2011/11/im-christian-unless-youre-gay.html
Hey Travon, You are such a blessing. I came out around the time you were born & you still teach me volumes. I’m always suspicious when people use the Bible as a proof-doc. It is meant to inspire & illuminate. It also is believed to have over 150 authors & was composed over 250 years. I was raised Catholic, almost became a monk, and went to Christmas mass with my mama tonight. I’m also a big gay boy who believes my sexuality is a gift from God. When people say “The Bible says this, so this must be true” they’re using the Bible to support prejudice that is already in them.
I have a friend, Tyrone. We have the homosexuality/sin argument all the time. He’ll say, “With all due respect…” and then proceed to disrespect me. I tell him, “T, you have your head so deep in that book, you can’t see my righteous beauty.” “Look in my eyes, look in my heart. God loves all His children.”
Thanks for all you do. Thanks for starting my Christmas off on an inspired note. Keep it up, babe. xoRex
Well-said!!!!
Travon, keep doin’ what you do. You are beautiful. You have a platform I would LOVE to have. I’m so glad you’re using it well. xoxoxo Merry Christmas, dear sir. -Naomi
Hi there, I think it is sad that you feel hated, undervalued and viewed as inferior. I agree that some people are mean, and hatefilled but you must understand that many of them just have hurt in their heart and may find gays as an easy target. You may have heard the expression: hurt people hurt people. But I think it is unfair to paint Christianity with such a large brush. Just because one claims to be Christian does not mean they are the official spokesman. Christ loves homosexuals but does not like homosexuality. It is sin. Just like any other sin, it is wrong and should be avoided.
I am a Christian, I do not hate you, despise you or even particularly care what you are up to. I would not approach you and tell you what I think of homosexuality. But I would tell you the truth (as I see it) if you asked. I am not interested in making this a Christian nation, in fact, I think Christians should stay OUT of politics. I think it is a distraction from our mission. That is not our field (in which to sow seed).
Im not sure what your goal with this post is. Do you hate Christians? I sense resentment and anger from it. You talk about love but also put down and use hateful language towards others so there is a bit of a conflict there. If you are really trying to get a message out and really want it to bear fruit, then I would try a different method. Some of your words are cutting and hurtful. Were they meant to be? Love does not do that.
I don’t have all the answers. I believe what the bible teaches- homosexuality is sin. I do not make that my focus, I make Christ my focus and try to walk in His love. But love does not equal acceptance. He loves us the way we are but loves us TOO much to let us stay that way. Christ hates sin. Period. Any sin.
Regarding same sex marriage. I don’t think it is a good idea. I think this because I believe homosexuality is sin, as mentioned above. Now does this mean that I just want homosexuals to be unhappy and feel inferior and less human? Absolutely not. I just can’t support sin. If sin is wrong and has consequences (all sin) what good am I doing a homosexual by supporting their sin? So I do not oppose same sex marriage because of hate but because of love. Do you understand?
If marriage is a right then it is a right for everyone and that creates many complications that do not benefit society as a whole. None of which have anything to do with religion.
I think there is a lot of speculation in your post. I feel bad that you have been treated poorly by so called Christians. But not all are like that. In fact, I dont even remember the last time I met someone who says they are of Christ who is like that. And I know A LOT of people.
Merry Christmas to you, and I apologize if people of my belief have hurt you.
M
First let me start by saying I hate no one. I didn’t use any type of hurtful or hateful language toward anyone in this post. This post is directed at the very people who are of the words I spoke, homophobic and bigoted. If one wants to not be deemed as so then they should act in the opposite manner. I don’t hate christians, many of them are nice people. This is both a truthful and sarcastic dose of reality for the people in question. You sense resentment and anger because the truth of my words dont sink in. Nothing stated above is untrue and can not be seen as illogical based on christian principals. It’s never fun when your own book is used against you in the name of undoing the harm that is perpetrated by the people this letter is directed at.
You say you cant support gay marriage because you cant support sin. This means you are not a supporter of many of the things that make up todays america or you are a tremendous hypocrite. You honor every single verse of the bible as it is written. Otherwise you are a hypocrite and you choose to focus on one aspect of an often misinterpreted text. Judge not, lest you be judged? remember that? love thy neighbor as you love yourself? If you consider yourself a christian based on the principals of jesus christ who denounced the laws of Leviticus then find me one instance where he denounces being gay. You cant. Which means you yourself choose to discriminate, dont hide behind the word sin. If you believe in sin, then based on the bible you yourself were born into sin and are thus no different than any gay person. A sinner. So then explain why you choose to focus on one particular sin while ignoring others? This is the perpetual cycle of bigoted christians to blind to see the error of their own ways in the name of a man who would never agree with them on the matter. Continuing to see the speck in someone else’s eye while ignoring the plank in your own.
I don’t expect to change your or anyone else’s mind who are so far to the right of the issue that they are impervious to logic. Things like this letter are to support the people it is written in the name of and to appeal to the sensibility of those who are aware of an ignorance they may possess, have an open mind, and are in a middle moderate place of continued learning and growth. There is a reason every generation of the world becomes more and more loving and tolerant of each other. Because the old ways die while the truth of love and compassion prevail. The saddest thing about being christian(which i am not) that I see in your religion is that many of you dont truly know christ and its written in plain sight in the very book you claim to live from.
Travon, first off, how much reading have you done in the scriptures? It IS alright to infer things based on previous knowledge. Right, Jesus did not mention homosexuality. He didn’t mention pedophilia or rape either. Does He support them?
IF we believe that the bible is God’s Word then we only need look to the writing of Paul who in 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 mentioned homosexuality.
Just because there are no recorded teachings explicitly on homosexuality by Jesus, does NOT mean he has no opinion on the subject. He Himself said that He would send a messenger that would teach all things. The Holy Spirit does have an opinion on homosexuality. There are scriptures in the NT on this subject.
You read my post right? I said I DO NOT make it my focus to preach against homosexuality. Nor do I focus on any other sin.
Yes, you are right, I was born into sin. We all were. But being born OF sin and being a slave to it are two different things. If I continue practicing the same sin over and over the truth is not in me. 1 John 3:6, 1 John 2:3-4, 1 John 3:9, 3 John 1:11
Do not judge? Wrong. The bible says to not judge at a glance….. John 7:24
You called people small minded in your post. How can you prove that? Just because they don’t share your view on homosexuality?
Travon, I just want to reiterate that I do not focus on homosexuality or any other sin. I thin that is wrong and a waste of time. I came across your blog in the “love” tags. I didn’t go roaming around looking for homosexuals to bash. Okay? I just was bored and decided to comment.
And again, none of the Christians I know treat homosexuals or anyone else like this. Thanks.
Mitchelll-
It sounds to me, brother, like you are a loving person overall. But I have to point out that comparing homosexuality to rape and pedophilia is one of the oldest and most heinous forms of bigotry against us. Please do not use that example ever again. In case you can’t see the distinction, let me explain it to you. Rape and pedophilia are acts of violence that humiliate and invalidate another person. Homosexuality is a an attraction circuit between two loving people that doesn’t hurt anyone, and in fact makes the world a better place. Because LOVE makes the world a better place.
I could argue Bible scriptures with you. But I won’t. As pointed out, you are picking and choosing which parts to adhere to. The only true sin, Mitchell, is willful ignorance. Because with full knowledge comes not just tolerance, but acceptance. LOVE isn’t an emotion, it is acceptance of people for who they are. And if we all loved each other, as Jesus asked us to, then most if not all problems in our tragically beautiful world would be solved.
Take a moment to reflect on your opinions about our community, please. The hurt and anger you see among us is initiated by the truly cruel people like the parents who would put their children in shirts telling us that God hates us. But the salt in our wounds is good people, such as yourself, who are still confused on what love is. We need people like you to LOVE to make the world a better place.
Merry Christmas, Mitchell.
Kate
Kate, the argument was that because Jesus wasn’t quoted as saying anything about homosexuality that He must be in favor of it. I am not saying homosexuality is the same as rape, just that neither are mentioned by Jesus.
What is your definition of love? Who decides what is love and what isn’t? I just want to be clear before I make an argument.
How am I picking and choosing scriptures? Was Jesus accepting the pharisees when he condemned them to hell? That doesn’t sound like your kind of love.
If you want to debate scripture fine. But please do not try to assume that I am just ignorant or a hater because I believe homosexuality is a sin. I believe smoking cigarettes is a sin too. Same with alcoholism. Or having sex with a consensual adult of the opposite sex who is not your spouse.
God loves us but He hates our sin. There are no exceptions. That may not be some peoples brand of love. But when you are God, you get to make the rules.
Thank you for the holiday wishes. Merry Christmas to you as well.
Ummmm…Mitchell, you said you believe the teachings of Christ and therefore believe homosexuality is a sin, but Christ never said that. Please show me where he said that. You totally missed the entire point of this post.
Religion poisons everything— Christopher Hitchens.